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I have a plan but it is rulers who have emasculated so many political institutions that would really be helpful to facilitate the transfer of power but having emasculate don't provide a soft landing pad for these kinds of personal our rulers strategy would be to revert to a security service is that would make him hard to dislodge at the same time it would also may be the new president of Russia whoever that might be in a very nervous and it would be difficult for that person to really precise power fully work looking to still be around in the in the political scene so that the challenge for

 food even if he would like to step down it's difficult to find a way to tie the hands of your successful so that they'll leave you alone so we are just about out of time I want to thank the panelists this was a terrific discussion I wish I could go on for another hour will have her buddy back when we can all be in the same room together but everybody thank everybody really appreciate the comment I thought they were terrific 

so thank you and thanks for organizing medical science department at Columbia University the principal Keith Frye is a professor of political science at Columbia power and focus pressure isn't International Affairs professor at Columbia University and they were joined by Stephen popken Princeton University International Affairs Professor moderator for the conversation is the chair of the poli-sci department at Columbia rank of Corporal here from voices of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace the office authoritarians are rising in power around the world in late February in DC I'm a member of the event politics and prose bookstore and I'd like to welcome you to PNP life before we had any point during the event you can click on 

the link that I'll be dropping momentarily and have a chat to purchase the Revenge of power out of crabs are Reinventing politics for the 21st century you can ask a question by clicking on the Q&A questions but I apologize in advance if we don't have time we're delighted to offer closed captioning for this event via

 zoom zauto captioning service to access captions just click on the live transcript option which is also along the bottom of your screen is my pleasure to introduce this evening Moises name it name is the Revenge of power is an urgent thrilling and original look at the future of democracy it illuminates one of the most important battles of our freedom and how to contain and defeat the auto corrects mushrooming around the world policy magazine that fellow in economics and business journalism at Columbia University now without further Ado is my pleasure to turn the screen over to a gentleman thank you Chelsea it is such an honor to be here tonight with with Moyes name and before we take off I just want to indulge in a completely personal digression here I was in graduate school in the mid-90s when I read a book about his experiences are all

 marked up by myself working endlessly grateful he was working on his book later I read and admired his book The End of power 2013 I apologize I still have not yet read two spies and it's hard to keep up with him tonight feels like a like a homecoming of sorts for me I want to begin by trying to connect these books and away or at least the two most recent ones what's about how small are players in global Affairs and business in politics and Civil Society or the exercise of Power by the bigger players not what it used to be now several years later about the Revenge of power that the

 consolidation of Power by autocratic leaders and a power to the revenge thank you very much for doing this so thankful politics and prose for a decade when I sold the old incumbents develop new ways to hold of the challenges they faced a decade when we saw an explosive growth in political social media dinosaur is stronger a political appetizer countries and their borders we're not enough they they wanted a larger Global presence and participation so we're on our way of attacking democracy social stats in every continent in Hungary to power is worth nothing nothing here that the weakening of power the fragmentation of power that you described the way I did it in my last book that should be considered as mutually exclusive you can have all the countries that have a hard time keeping it together and fragmentation and the weakening of power becomes the norm is an attempt to show our forces and those who have power for those of you who participated in on this room who could we need to both introduce and just it's still concept is simple but then help us understand a variety of of trends no big and small in in the world at the notion of what you call the condos Concepts as the key to the store bacon so you know we had a bunch of concepts are jumping around all the way to San Gabriel through but I felt that I put my own understanding I needed I seen so she said I needed to have a basic way of Ascension

 way of understanding and explaining what was going on and then factors oldest players all these strategies in three-piece populism or a realization and post truth has existed forever but they are a new referral for the 21st Century Technologies Society there are difference and harder to rush confuse with that allows play Dividing by talking about the noble people that he's representing defending them from the city of a car that needs to still to be because trained and what you need to make right for all of these people look around democracies around the world and you will see that all of them are highly polarized society as always being a polarizing issues and divisional identities how far practicing colorization away that is so extreme that doesn't allow for that at the end of the loud house call Megan feezle near me that sells open a relation is that one that allows that the exchanges are the defenses of different words for the end up having an agreement that allows a ship is the one that makes the division so deep that makes it impossible for the polar ice groups to active Aero to find some level of nurtured and provide an added with grateful to see my Post Road which is it in the past we used to call it propaganda but this is bigger than propaganda Minister like that a recurring character in in your book as as one of the 3mp milestone  autocrat how does this latest move sure and argument of of the Revenge of power Elementary Russian speakers in Ukraine that is under threat from A government controlled by a corrupt Western influence at least he went so far as to say that elected elected government led by a Jewish person..

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